Tuesday, August 9, 2011 57 Comments

Movers and shakers in sports & leisure

From amazon.co.uk. The work of Sir Billy Howe appears complete - the Atlantic is no more:

Movers and shakers #4, #5, and #6 evince the same remarkable upsurge - in the last 24 hours! - in transatlantic attention to our romantic national pastime. Now that's what I call a special relationship! Can an expansion team be far behind? The London Chavs, perhaps? But why is no one buying gloves? UK readers please note: barehanding a long fly ball is no joke.

You're displaying remarkable perspicuity, however, in voting aluminium. Admittedly, the "Bronx" brand exerts a powerful fashion attraction. But not only is the aluminium bat cheaper, it's almost impossible to break. There's not much use in a broken baseball bat. And remember: the strike zone starts at the knees.

We might also compare
Everyone from all sides of London meet up at the heart of London (central) OXFORD CIRCUS!!, Bare SHOPS are gonna get smashed up so come get some (free stuff!!!) fuck the feds we will send them back with OUR riot! >:O
Dead the ends and colour war for now so
if you see a brother... SALUT!
if you see a fed... SHOOT!
We need more MAN then feds so Everyone run wild, all of london and others are invited! Pure terror and havoc & Free stuff....just smash shop windows and cart out da stuff u want! Oxford Circus!!!!! 9pm, we don't need pussyhole feds to run the streets and put our brothers in jail so tool up,
its a free world so have fun running wild shopping;)
Oxford Circus 9pm if u see a fed stopping a brother JUMP IN!!! EVERYONE JUMP IN niggers will be lurking about, all blacked out we strike at 9:15pm-9:30pm, make sure ur there see you there. REMEMBA DA LOCATION!!! OXFORD CIRCUS!!!
and contrast:
All the Millenniums I ever heard of heretofore were to be preceded by a “chaining of the Devil for a thousand years,” — laying him up, tied neck and heels, and put beyond stirring, as the preliminary. You too have been taking preliminary steps, with more and more ardour, for a thirty years back; but they seem to be all in the opposite direction: a cutting asunder of straps and ties, wherever you might find them; pretty indiscriminate of choice in the matter: a general repeal of old regulations, fetters, and restrictions (restrictions on the Devil originally, I believe, for most part, but now fallen slack and ineffectual), which had become unpleasant to many of you, — with loud shouting from the multitude, as strap after strap was cut, “Glory, glory, another strap is gone!”— this, I think, has mainly been the sublime legislative industry of Parliament since it became “Reform Parliament;” victoriously successful, and thought sublime and beneficent by some.

So that now hardly any limb of the Devil has a thrum, or tatter of rope or leather left upon it: — there needs almost superhuman heroism in you to “whip” a Garotter; no Fenian taken with the reddest hand is to be meddled with, under penalties; hardly a murderer, never so detestable and hideous, but you find him “insane,” and board him at the public expense, a very peculiar British Prytaneum of these days! And in fact, THE DEVIL (he, verily, if you will consider the sense of words) is likewise become an Emancipated Gentleman; lithe of limb as in Adam and Eve’s time, and scarcely a toe or finger of him tied any more. And you, my astonishing friends, you are certainly getting into a millennium, such as never was before, — hardly even in the dreams of Bedlam.
"Enormous Megatherions, ugly as were ever born of mud." "Fuck the feds, dead the ends, and color war for now." "Hardly even in the dreams of Bedlam." "Niggers will be lurking about, all blacked out." Who can deny that history itself is a poem? A nigger's got to admit - it's epic. If only we knew the ending!


Anonymous B said...

That exhortation to riot is suspiciously lacking in spelling errors. I like how they call the British police "feds".

August 9, 2011 at 11:47 AM  
Anonymous The Abbot said...

Hold a couple dozen public hangings and this nonsense all stops. That is the way the true Kings of Englands [sic] past would have dealt with this.

- John Adams, Allentown, USA, 09/8/2011 19:41

From the Daily Mail. Past and present, indeed.

August 9, 2011 at 12:04 PM  
Anonymous B said...

B, we've got to work something out about pseudonyms.

August 9, 2011 at 12:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The large upsurge in camping supplies suggests people are preppin bug out bags too.

August 9, 2011 at 12:10 PM  
Blogger Vladimir said...

"Feds" is a curious phrase. Any relationship to this tweet from a notorious Marxist agitator and professional martyr?

(He lost his journalism gig as a result of that tweet, so readers of the Independent can be spared his utterly tedious articles about Israel.)

August 9, 2011 at 3:01 PM  
Blogger Cyprian Korzeniowski said...

Concerning the Rucanor Aluminium Baseball Bat, Silver - 60 cm:

"I hadnt realised that this isnt a regulation size bat, 60 CM or 24 inches is the size of bat you would have if you were a young child playing baseball and definately not adult sized. Its more the size of a rounders bat, perhaps slightly longer. I didnt however, buy this to play baseball with. As for the bat itself it feels solid and is reasonably light. The grip is easily big enough for an adult to hold the bat two handed."

Emphasis is mine.

We should be getting field reports soon.

August 9, 2011 at 3:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tim Newman is in good form:

"I'm glad I left the damned place eight years ago and can say it is nothing to do with me. At least it eases the embarrassment of having a Nigerian asking me what the hell is wrong with my country."

What fun it would be, to sit at a high window in London with a really accurate suppressed .22. A .223 would be better, but you can't on the neighbors over there to keep quiet about it.

August 9, 2011 at 4:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What fun it would be, to sit at a high window in London with a really accurate suppressed .22. A .223 would be better, but you can't on the neighbors over there to keep quiet about it."

Don't sit at the window, sit (or stand) behind the window. Kinda like a frame. Yes, you will have less of a view of the targets, but you will reduce flash and noise to be heard/seen from the street. You also hide yourself from a bit better as well. Subsonic rounds are available. Also, you'd be surprised how easily one can add some field modifications to a rifle to make shooting less noisy and visible by those who would be disturbed by such things. Just sayin'...

August 9, 2011 at 7:57 PM  
Blogger vanderleun said...

Here's the pitch. Moldbug swings...... it's a long one.... a long one... it's OUTTA HERE!

August 9, 2011 at 9:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I trust you will agree with Al Jazeera piece that the riots are about power, not mere mindless looting.

August 9, 2011 at 9:24 PM  
Anonymous The Undiscovered Jew said...

Don't worry.

The entire British military and police force are in hot pursuit of Rupert Murdoch.

August 9, 2011 at 9:35 PM  
Anonymous Awful said...

The "fed" thing interested me, too. I assume that came from US hip-hop/ghetto culture?

My absolute favorite thing is the call for "colour war" with British spelling, and everything.

Right-O, old chap! Shall we kill whitey? Jolly good!

August 10, 2011 at 12:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rioting sounds awesome. If only smart young whites weren't such cowardly pussies the poorer among us would have some jolly fun riots too.

If you can't make bank through manipulating the stock market you can do it through manipulating the neck of the guy who manipulated the stock market (or court room or whatever).

All's fair in laissez faire.

August 10, 2011 at 3:33 AM  
Anonymous vimothy said...

Of course it comes from US hip-hop culture.

Feels like the end-times in the UK today. Lines from Yeats are swirling round my head...

August 10, 2011 at 4:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I posted this at Mangan's, but I'll post it here as well:

Something else the mainstream media is not reporting:

the guy that was shot was a member of the Tottenham Man Dem gang (he may even have been one of the core members). The individuals that started the riots, and continued the majority of them, were from that gang, and other affiliated street gangs. The left are playing this as "poor revolutionary underclass" angle, when it is really urban street gangs acting with impunity.

It's classic anarcho-tyranny in action.

Also, check out this article on "This America Life" about urban gangs: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/442/thugs

You can't make this shit up, a leftist radio station championing the virtues of living under thugs.

August 10, 2011 at 5:20 AM  
Anonymous vimothy said...


August 10, 2011 at 5:44 AM  
Anonymous dearieme said...

"UK readers please note: barehanding a long fly ball is no joke." There speaks a man who has never fielded in the slips.

August 10, 2011 at 5:57 AM  
Anonymous B said...

B&B, I can be B too if that helps.


August 10, 2011 at 10:10 AM  
Anonymous LS said...

"Warriors... come out and playyy..."

August 10, 2011 at 11:26 AM  
Blogger L33tminion said...

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August 10, 2011 at 2:16 PM  
Blogger L33tminion said...

The thing about Carlyle's metaphor is that liberals don't view the Devil as being chained to the ground but rather in front of some great war chariot. Its mobility may be constrained by this arrangement, but its firepower is greatly enhanced, so it's not at all clear that this arrangement is to the Devil's disadvantage.

Absent any ability to banish the Devil, liberals would rather fight a running battle with a rampaging Devil than see such power harnessed to still-Diobolical ends.

(Of course, that also means fighting a running battle with those who see the Devil rampaging and think rampaging is a trend.)

August 10, 2011 at 2:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haven't listened to the This American Life episode yet, but I would assume people here would be comfortable with the idea that there is not that much difference between a government and a gang of thugs -- every government starts that way. The mafia exercised some of the positive functions of government in their day; so why is it a surprise if some mexican drug gangs start doing the same thing?

Or put it another way, you always live under a gang of thugs, but their are degrees of thuggery.

August 10, 2011 at 3:23 PM  
Anonymous vimothy said...

Hahaha—Our weekend of actual Anarchy in the UK doesn't seem to excite your commenters much, Mencius.

Well, lemme tell ya'll what just happened here: The mostly teenage children of London's underclass—joined eventually by sundry opportunists from every walk of life—took over our capital city and looted it for four days and nights in a saturnalian orgy of destruction.

A similar pattern was repeated in many of our larger cities, but on a smaller scale.

And on the fifth day—the rioters just melted back into the population.

There is no sense in which the authorities won. There was no defeat of the rioters. There was no unambiguous imposition of order. The authorities—including the police—stood by and watched. The rioters ended the riots spontaneously and unilaterally.

The street kids will have learnt—unless they are, like our leaders, human vegetables unable to respond to external stimulus—that they can take the city whenever they like, that no one dares to stop them from doing whatever they want.

In short, they discovered who is scared, and it isn't them.

The response of our thinking class is already that “like Norway we need more democracy"—give them more of anything and maybe they won't hate us. Why do they hate us? Nobody knows. This event stands before them like an inexplicable mindboggling mystery. They wheel out inarticulate teenagers to mumble and mangle the stock phrases they trained them in: “it’s, like, they don’t have nothing to do cause its summer”; “the youth feel, like, no one listens”. They dissociate themselves from the events via the magical soma of the youtube upload. Watch, do not think or feel—you might accidentally realise the truth.

Anyway, whatever it is, this thing must be made to go down the memory whole as soon as possible. “The fight back starts here.” “England fights back.” “Robust policing.” “Robust responses.” Robust this, robust that. We're in charge! We’re not scared! Everything is normal!

Our future slouched a bit closer this weekend.

August 10, 2011 at 8:01 PM  
Blogger Mitchell said...

vimothy said:

"Our future slouched a bit closer this weekend."

What future?

I don't mean that you have no future; I'm just asking, what is the nature of this future that you see coming?

Human life skates over a great abyss of emptiness. "Rioting" is a nihilistic spasm in the face of this emptiness, an attempt to preserve the ecstatic irresponsibility of childhood. "Reconstruction", and the tedium of organized adult life, is for those who decide to make the effort required to go on living in the emptiness, and that's always the vast majority.

The very meaninglessness of the British riots tells you that they have no long-term future as a political or cultural phenomenon. There won't be any 2011 Martyrs' Brigade or Summer of 2011 cultural movement. Since the zeitgeist is all about social engineering through positive reinforcement, that will be the dominant response, leavened with a few tougher and more old-fashioned measures. The episode will be talked to death, understood as a matter of changing demographics and new generations, the rioters who feel ready to grow up will do so, life will go on, new things will happen, and the emptiness will remain. That's my prognosis.

August 10, 2011 at 10:18 PM  
Anonymous Ron Potato said...

Mitchell: What are you saying?

That the broke governments are going to increase transfer payments to poor people, who will have so much fun watching TV twelve hours a day they won't bother with anything else?

That these "meaningless nihilists", uncultured, animal yobs with nothing else to do, who have already succeeded in their chaos against a weak government, will never again be angry, or want free stuff?

Do you just mean "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, there is nothing new under the sun"?

As a nihilist, it's true, you've said nothing.

August 11, 2011 at 3:55 AM  
Anonymous The Undiscovered Jew said...

Why do they hate us?

For ending the slave trade?

August 11, 2011 at 5:21 AM  
Anonymous RS said...

> What future?

A future in which people do a little more of whatever they want that ain't allowed. But really, while that's something, in a way that's not even it.

(This wasn't just some glass-breaking and grabbing - to me the numerous gigantic fires are rather more disturbing than that.)

Suffice to say that the authorities shrieked like teen girls trying to sound real, real serious, then boldly did nothing, like a bunch of enervates. This was a repellent spectacle: far more repellent than seeing yobs yob it like a bunch of yobs. What you say about emptiness or meaninglessness is apropos. Our chiefs couldn't figure out why to restore order to London, because life seems to have no point anyway, so neither does London. Why have London rather than not have it?

There's no nation, no crown, no blood or ethny or anything, that needs to be kept in a proud condition - nothing that would balance the slightest risk of injury to anyone ny use of a firehose or rubber bullet. Just a set of emancipated Lockean individuals, E[1] = 'England'. There's not enough reason or energy to will this or will that, especially something as vague and mystical as dignity.

In one pan of the balance you had this risk and/or embarrassment of turning firehoses on folks. On the other hand the riots were kind of embarrassing themselves - something improper about all that. Therefore everyone went rummaging around for something to set in the opposite pan, but they didn't find anything. It turned out that everything in the world is all too light ; no one had anything in his estate that weighs more than a few grams. And there is no common property that draws heft, assembles value, from every man. England, qua common and imperishable possession, weighs perhaps the least of all.

August 11, 2011 at 6:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I commented here earlier about my own eagerness to join the rioters should they only be more welcoming of brainy white guys like myself. Nobody seems to have understood me clear enough to engage so I'll flesh it out for ya.

Whatever societal excuse these folk have (like we've been victimized on account of our race or islamophobia or whatever), the fact is that THEY, and not the basement dwelling Paultards who haunt the internetgs, are the sane ones. Revolt against the Haves is what every indigent person ought to engage in, I personally don't do so on account of the Haves' police force and prison system, but granted the cover of a riot/revolution? Just let me at em.

The negroes have societal allowance for their ephemeral revolts, they're just responding to "racism" you see, poor whites like myself however (I'm Jewish for what it's worth, have no cookie-cutter ideology for revolt so the majority of us would not only not consider it but in fact condemn the negroes for taking advantage of their good fortune of having been born black.

To be sure, if/when I'm wealthy I'll be as opposed to rioting as the wealthy of today are, but at the moment I just curse the stupidity and pussyishness of my fellow lower-classmates for not standing up as any self responding people would and demanding that the Haves decrease the wealth gap tremendously (healthcare for all would be a start) or face potentially fatal revolution.

The negro uplift has destroyed the natural impulse of the white working class in this country but that natural impulse is healthy and right and were we less distracted by irrelevant racial dramas we'd fuckin riot too. Any minimum wage slave content to take the bus for a decade while the moldbugs of the world sit in million dollar homes with another million dollars in the bank deserves precisely what he gets. And if he defends the system that keeps moldbug's millions secure for his sybils while he himself can't afford to wed and procreate then he deserves far far worse than what he gets.

August 11, 2011 at 9:37 PM  
Blogger G. M. Palmer said...

Anon 9:37:

You sound vile.

August 11, 2011 at 10:19 PM  
Blogger Zimri said...

I call bullshit on anon 9:37 being Jewish. No Jew could be this inarticulate, obtuse, and moronic.

Uch, the shame.

August 11, 2011 at 11:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Palmer, you sound like you always do - way out of your depth. You fuckin believe in CHRIST for pete's sake you stupid sheigitz.

Zimri, enjoy getting fucked by a Cosby.

August 12, 2011 at 12:19 AM  
Blogger M Fawful said...

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August 12, 2011 at 2:36 AM  
Anonymous awful said...

I call bullshit on anon 9:37 being Jewish. No Jew could be this inarticulate, obtuse, and moronic.

Never heard of Thomas Friedman? ;D

August 12, 2011 at 2:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon @ 9:37 is mittelwerk. It's the same trolling, and language-use.

He's no longer signing off on his posts though, as he was called out in the other thread as a troll.

August 12, 2011 at 4:47 AM  
Anonymous Ron Potato said...

And yet he has a point. Working poor people have been content with the bread and circuses of magical technology, even as they work menial labor and are deprived of prosperity, mulcted by bankers, non-working poor, and foreign trade.

August 12, 2011 at 8:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pakistanis and Indians Jailed for Starting Birmingham Riots


John Derbyshire estimates that blacks comprise about 2% of the British population but 60 - 70% of the rioters.



August 12, 2011 at 10:57 AM  
Anonymous RS said...

I call nonsense on anyone calling nonsense on Zimri being Jewish.

August 12, 2011 at 2:16 PM  
Anonymous RS said...

I don't /totally/ disagree with Ron. I'm not quite that big on sanctity of property or non-aggro axiom. Those things certainly matter, but I can tell that some are more passionate about them than I am.

August 12, 2011 at 2:19 PM  
Anonymous RS said...

For example, how do you bigtime sanctity/non-aggro boys define aggression?

Questions of that type often amount to sophomoric nominalism, but I'm not sure that is the case here. Can the deeds of wall street be cleanly classed as non-aggro?

A formalist might not emphasize non-aggro quite that much, though. He would say that if wall street can, in fact, shear the sheep or apply taxation through (what might be called) non-physical aggression, then it is probably beneficial to (legitimatingly) acknowledge as much.

But I'm inclined to say "I legitimiate it provisionally and instrumentally at /most/, and to turn to my usual refrain I think it would happen a lot less in the ethnostate".

August 12, 2011 at 2:39 PM  
Anonymous Alrenous said...

Defining aggression is easy. I'm aggressed against when I'm trying to leave someone alone and they won't let me.

Wall Street? Can I bank without involving Wall Street at some point? No? Okay, can I open or encourage the opening of an independent bank? No? Huh. Well, about that...

August 12, 2011 at 5:56 PM  
Blogger G. M. Palmer said...



The whole point of this exercise in Mencism is that one is not toking the An-Cap joint here.

The very nature of formalism (and, more accurately at this point monarchism) is that "thugs" will always be in charge and it is in everyone's best interest (or rather, the greatest best interest) to make sure the "thugs" are as judicious as is possible/practicable.

This means that Wall-Street "aggression" (which can be worked around/with) is vastly preferable to yob aggression (which one has to run from).

That doesn't mean, however, that in a Mencist state one wouldn't view both rather with distaste--just that there is indeed a quantifiable difference between the two.

August 12, 2011 at 10:08 PM  
Anonymous Erik said...

I would like to call nonsense on all the people calling Jews, it's derailing the comment threads.

August 12, 2011 at 10:58 PM  
Anonymous Ron Potato said...

Palmer: Formalism is established order, or strength, not thugs.

The organized, judicious strong are by definition not thugs.

August 12, 2011 at 11:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

State department sponsoring technology for building a subversive grassroots network:



"The Open Technology Initiative—part of the public-policy think tank New America Foundation—recently received a US $2 million grant from the Department of State to help coordinate its MANET development effort, called Commotion Wireless. The organization’s goal is to get MANET technology ready for use in areas that have oppressive regimes."

August 13, 2011 at 2:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Palmer: Formalism is established order, or strength, not thugs.

Translation: it's thugs who have already won, and so can afford to be respectable.

It's pretty funny to see people worship strength while at the same time pretending that it's something other than violence and the threat of violence. Good luck having it both ways.

August 13, 2011 at 10:39 AM  
Anonymous Ron Potato said...

You may believe the inner character of a thug and a strong-man are the same, but the competence and organization are clearly different.

If you want an analogy for the state, they are far more like the Italian Mafia, than either the common criminal "thug", or the Hindu "Thug".

August 13, 2011 at 1:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Mafia is an excellent example of something half-way along the path from thuggery to statehood, so it bolsters my point, I think.

August 13, 2011 at 2:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So is finding God.

August 13, 2011 at 5:24 PM  
Blogger G. M. Palmer said...


That's why I used scare quotes.

According to Anarchists (and some more mainstream leftists), a state is just a group of thugs with majority backing.

August 13, 2011 at 5:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's pretty funny to see people worship strength while at the same time pretending that it's something other than violence and the threat of violence. Good luck having it both ways.

rofl, what I find funny is people engaging in shitty reasoning like tu quoque and thinking they have a valid argument.

August 13, 2011 at 10:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I find it funny to hear people employ phrases like tu quoque under the impression that it makes them sound smart.

August 14, 2011 at 12:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I gather anarchists end up with anarchy of the mind too.

Quod est inferius est sicut quod est superius.

August 14, 2011 at 6:20 AM  
Anonymous jay said...

So what's really going on in Britain? They can't buy a meter stick of electrical conduit or pipe at a hardware store? Maybe if it doesn't explicitly state in the instruction manual of a product that it can used to hit something it doesn't occur to the Brits that they could use it for that purpose anyway.

August 15, 2011 at 2:55 AM  
Blogger Ivan Jankovic said...

Here they are in DC


August 15, 2011 at 12:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"According to Anarchists (and some more mainstream leftists), a state is just a group of thugs with majority backing."

Only if they are Rethuglicans, G.M.

August 15, 2011 at 7:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i just have to add that the title of this post alone, in this context, was worth every penny i donated during the last fundraising drive here. movers and shakers indeed. moldbug ftw.

August 15, 2011 at 7:37 PM  
Blogger G. M. Palmer said...


Hardly--you're just not hanging out with the right leftists.

It was certainly au currant to use that terminology during the Bush administration but I first heard the arguments during Clinton's first.

August 16, 2011 at 5:50 AM  

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