Friday, August 28, 2009 47 Comments

A rare public appearance

I'll be making a short presentation at Patri Friedman's seasteading conference, September 28-30 in San Francisco. Slides and video will be posted.

UR readers will learn little new from my talk, "Reactionary Imperialism for the 21st Century." But there are many other interesting speakers on the agenda - take a look. Plus, you get to see me work out my rabble-rousing beerhall style, in a Subcommander Marcos mask.

47 Comments:

Anonymous Scott W. said...

From the site:

(Anonymous blogger Moldbug will appear masked, to preserve his secret identity)

What kind of mask may I ask?

August 28, 2009 at 10:32 AM  
Anonymous Scott W. said...

nvm. Spaced out on the last line.

August 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM  
Anonymous pwyll said...

Wow, this is going to be totally awesome. I'll have to miss the conference (due to being gainfully employed) but I can't wait for the video.

August 28, 2009 at 10:36 AM  
Anonymous Stirner said...

Lets hope the Masked Moldbug avoids looking like a disheveled leftist.

Perhaps he should go for something snappy, like this:
http://tinyurl.com/ltcyvd

August 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM  
Anonymous Palladium said...

"Lets hope the Masked Moldbug avoids looking like a disheveled leftist.

If he wears a Subcomandante Marcos mask, he'll by definition look like a "disheveled leftist."

Also, Mencius, won't it be too hot and uncomfortable under that mask? Especially if you're going to speak for 25 to 45 minutes.

August 28, 2009 at 1:01 PM  
Blogger Beta Prime said...

Seasteading?

Talk about white flight...

August 28, 2009 at 6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Awesome. I hope someone puts this up on youtube.

August 28, 2009 at 8:26 PM  
Anonymous Marcus said...

Really? A mask? Hopefully that's just sarcasm because if not, don't go. I can't imagine ever taking anything you say seriously again, much less recommending UR to anyone else if you were to show up in a mask.

August 28, 2009 at 10:27 PM  
Anonymous John said...

Marcus wrote:

"Really? A mask? Hopefully that's just sarcasm because if not, don't go. I can't imagine ever taking anything you say seriously again, much less recommending UR to anyone else if you were to show up in a mask."

I completely disagree.

Mencius has every right to conceal his identity in public. He is/was a working professional and has a family, wife, daughter, etc.

It won't change my opinion of him, and I'll continue recommending UR to others.

August 28, 2009 at 11:04 PM  
Anonymous Pash said...

Mencius, you might want to protect yourself with more than a mask since Peter Thiel is going to be there.

August 29, 2009 at 2:16 AM  
Blogger G. M. Palmer said...

I thought Mencius was a retired professional?

Anyway, I don't think mask is the way to go (unless it's a really bitchin mask).

I think he should talk from behind a screen (or from another room, etc) with Gorillaz-like animation.

And soundtrack.

Democracy's useless
and it's bad
corporations
are where it's at
the left is on top
but not for long
reaction
is comin on is comin on

August 29, 2009 at 6:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mencius has every right to conceal his identity in public.

Um, the first step in protecting that right is to refuse to speak in public. If you want to speak in public it is intellectually dishonest to wear a mask or speak from behind a screen or conceal your identity in any other way. If I'd organized this conference, I wouldn't have let MM speak on those terms.

August 29, 2009 at 9:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mencius, are you under a threat of death from Islamic extremists or the mafia because of your views? If not, why do you not have the testicular fortitude to speak without a mask on? As far as we know, you don't even have a job that could be at risk (as if there's a boss in the world who gives a damn what his employees say in public about seasteading).

August 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM  
Blogger Porphyrogenitus said...

Not a Guy Faulkes hat and mask? Awww.

Probably both more than a little "Ren Faire" and "Diggerish" for you, but, then, so is SubComandante Marcos.

I do have to agree a mask seems a bit outre. Mayhap you can appear behind a screen, like someone seeking witness protection on old "60 Minutes" episodes, back when they occasionally did something less-useless.

August 29, 2009 at 11:22 AM  
Anonymous Douglas said...

There's nothing wrong with Mencius concealing his identity while speaking at the conference.

Especially when there are people like this out there.

August 29, 2009 at 12:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the mask idea - awesome

August 29, 2009 at 2:17 PM  
Blogger James A. Donald said...

If I was to speak in public, I too would wear a mask. There are lots of people who want to kill me or harm those I love for what I say in my web page and blog. There are also people who know my face, but not necessarily my name, and would like to kill me or harm those I love for what I have done in real life

August 29, 2009 at 4:46 PM  
Anonymous togo said...

Here's an idea: wear the kind of camoflauge mask/hood worn by US Marshal's Service snipers when they shot Randy Weaver's 14-year old son
Sammy in the back at Ruby Ridge, Idaho.

To add to the effect you might wear
a T-shirt with a picture of Lon Horiuchi giving the V-sign.

August 29, 2009 at 7:42 PM  
Anonymous togo said...

All meant ironically, of course.

August 29, 2009 at 7:46 PM  
Blogger Mitchell said...

"I can't imagine ever taking anything you say seriously again, much less recommending UR to anyone else if you were to show up in a mask."

Then this is your chance to step into the void, Subcomandante Marcus. Indeed, it may even be your duty to fill the gaping chasm left by Mencius's frivolity, since you're the one who sees it. If you know what must be done, and you know how it should be done... but the choice is yours.

August 30, 2009 at 3:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, if you're going to be proposing unipolar forms of governmental authority, and you're going to be wearing a mask, you might as well go all the way.

Just sayin'

August 30, 2009 at 4:19 AM  
Anonymous Marcus said...

I wasn't saying he doesn't have a right to conceal his identity in public. If Moldbug has a legitimate reason for hiding, he should stay home or attend anonymously. What I was I am saying is that the mask will hurt his reputation.

Who else wears a mask in public? Zorro, comic book characters, penitents, klansmen, biohazard workers, WWF wrestlers, black blocs and of course, Subcomandante Marcos. Does he really want to throw in with that lot?

There are other options. Record the talk and have it played back while someone runs the Powerpoint... Use Skype... Take video and blur the face like they do to protect the innocent on 20/20 and 60 minutes... You'll think of something.

What would Carlyle do?

August 30, 2009 at 8:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This sounds like a really bad idea.

August 30, 2009 at 9:29 AM  
Blogger nazgulnarsil said...

I think it's pretty clear what sort of mask you should wear.
http://doctorhuh.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/cobra-commander.jpg

August 30, 2009 at 11:16 AM  
Blogger G. M. Palmer said...

Okay,

The cobra commander suggestion is BRILLIANT.

Togo, I was thinking about Ruby Ridge the other day.

Is there a place out there with an un-canted un-slanted account of what happened?

I heard from my dad (a CPA who became one of those tax protester fellows) that they shot a woman (his wife? daughter?) through her baby (she was holding said baby).

Not that I really want to revisit wholesale slaughter on the part of the state, but it would be nice to know what actually happened.

August 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM  
Anonymous Michael S. said...

A suitable mask for a reactionary? How about a black domino and a tricorne. There is probably still a little shop somewhere in Venice that sells such things for use during Carnival.

August 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM  
Anonymous Clovis said...

All of you ignorant, unlettered rubes here just don't seem to get it.

Mencius Moldbug was making a reference to the reactionary Japanese litterateur Yukio Mishima.

August 30, 2009 at 2:06 PM  
Anonymous togo said...

Is there a place out there with an un-canted un-slanted account of what happened?
I read the following book years ago. It's an unbiased account by a journalist with conventional mainstream views:
http://www.amazon.com/Every-Knee-Shall-Bow-Tragedy/dp/0061011312/ref=pd_sim_b_9

August 30, 2009 at 2:48 PM  
Blogger n/a said...

"There's nothing wrong with Mencius concealing his identity while speaking at the conference. Especially when there are people like this out there."

People who mock him on the internet?

Believe me, if I gave half a fuck about MM's real name, I would have it.

August 30, 2009 at 7:54 PM  
Blogger G. M. Palmer said...

n/a

4chan is not your personal army.

August 30, 2009 at 8:28 PM  
Anonymous A. Warning said...

Masked? Please don't end up doing a Paul Staines/Guido Fawkes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r5d2Ccpo3I).

Be a man, for Christ-sake.

August 30, 2009 at 8:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah, go seasteading!! Create your own government.
then you can get away from all the icky disorder and and the negroes that terrify you.

August 30, 2009 at 11:29 PM  
Anonymous Sturm said...

"People who mock him on the internet?

Believe me, if I gave half a fuck about MM's real name, I would have it."

Such an ornery disposition and attitude is quite niggerish.

It must be due to some non-trivial Negro admixture.

Madison Grant would be very disappointed to learn that his self-appointed heir is of such sullied stock.

August 31, 2009 at 1:39 AM  
Blogger nazgulnarsil said...

I can never tell how tongue in cheek the racist commenters are.

August 31, 2009 at 4:37 AM  
Anonymous c23 said...

If MM is so concerned about privacy, he shouldn't do this. His real name is easy to find out - he's been quite loose with personal details. This is just going to tantalize internet detectives, and emphasize to those who dislike him that they could hurt him by unmasking him (I had thought he didn't really give a shit who found his identity).

If he is unmasked, he'll have more to worry about from progressives than fringe anti-semitic intellectuals like n/a. What do you think n/a is going to do, throw a Lothrop Stoddard book at him?

August 31, 2009 at 6:10 PM  
Blogger G. M. Palmer said...

Speaking of, MM graduated with Bobby Jindal?

August 31, 2009 at 6:41 PM  
Anonymous Zdeno said...

Vader mask.

Voice modifier.

"I find your lack of proper incentives for the provision of good government displeasing."

Speaking of which, random thought:

MM has already shattered my perceptions of the American Revolution, Civil War, WW1 and WW2... but I just realized that the Empire were the good guys in Star Wars. My world is officially flipped upside down.

Cheers,

Zdeno

August 31, 2009 at 11:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This reminds me of that homosexual psychiatrist that spoke at the 1972 American Psychiatric Association conference.

B.B.

September 1, 2009 at 4:20 AM  
Blogger Aaron Davies said...

@zdeno: some conservative did an essay a few years back (probably in the weekly standard or a similar venue) on precisely that point--how the empire were the forces of order, and the rebels of chaos, and our sympathies should rest with the empire. (i'm sure someone else here can find a link.)

given a recent (to me, at least) revelation that lucas originally conceived star wars as a vietnam allegory with the empire representing america, i find this argument even more persuasive.

September 1, 2009 at 7:14 AM  
Blogger Leonard said...

If only Darth Sidious had been smart enough to incorporate and buy off the rebels with some shares... they could have ended their destructive conflict and brought order to the galaxy.

Alas, they had no Darth Moldbug to show them the way.

September 1, 2009 at 7:55 AM  
Anonymous Zdeno said...

Google hath enlightened me:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/248ipzbt.asp?pg=1

Great article...

September 1, 2009 at 8:05 AM  
Blogger G. M. Palmer said...

Can we refer to MM as Darth Moldbug from now on?

:D

September 1, 2009 at 9:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zdeno, David Brin hammered Star Wars back in 1999:

http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/1999/06/15/brin_main/

Just what bill of goods are we being sold, between the frames?

* Elites have an inherent right to arbitrary rule; common citizens needn't be consulted. They may only choose which elite to follow.

* "Good" elites should act on their subjective whims, without evidence, argument or accountability.

* Any amount of sin can be forgiven if you are important enough.

* True leaders are born. It's genetic. The right to rule is inherited.

* Justified human emotions can turn a good person evil.


And also:

Remember the final scene in "Return of the Jedi," when Luke gazes into a fire to see Obi-Wan, Yoda and Vader, smiling in the flames? I found myself hoping it was Jedi Hell, for the amount of pain those three unleashed on their galaxy, and for all the damned lies they told. But that's me.

September 1, 2009 at 9:46 AM  
Blogger juantblanco said...

I've been to a few bars around Brown, I mean, Hell, going to any bar in RI is like being right next to Brown... but Providence cops like to order people who are drunk to drive, so it explains MM quite well (it was probably because me and my compatriot were on the same social level as the equine as well as being trained enforcers of the global status blow -- its a prole job but someone has to do it).

...and I see where Darth Moldbug is coming from when I read Hans-Hermann Hoppe, drink too bourbon, and think everything in life is a computer program.

Being anonymous is more fun, even (or especially) when what he is saying is basically re-describing reality just on the cusp of being.

Darth Moldbug is bringing micro-states back...

...while these folks are bringing scury back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkWbXrS5DtA

September 1, 2009 at 10:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

G.M. Palmer, I rather like "Moldfinger" myself.

September 2, 2009 at 3:02 AM  
Anonymous josh said...

justblanco would not pass the Turing test.

September 2, 2009 at 4:31 AM  
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September 2, 2009 at 9:12 AM  

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