Tuesday, November 20, 2007 29 Comments

Ian Smith: 1919-2007

"Smith has been utterly vindicated." - Rian Malan

The last great Englishman
Is dead, and fuck who disagrees.
He once said to Henry Kissinger,
"Is there no honor in the world
Any more?" This man whose face
Was half shot off in the RAF.
"No," replied good Henry, and
Went on to fuck him. And of course
His nation - now a rotting ruin.
This small farmer, this militarist,
This pissant little pseudo-country,
England's chopped and pickled toe,
Weird ascendancy of the Adidas age.
The gods themselves contend in vain!
Still every harvest year is bitter.
The world has never stopped burning.
The revolutions cook and simmer,
They stroke their ire, they brood
And stir among the young, flexing
The bone returning in their fist.
They are all acts of the strong
Upon the weak. Believe none.
Harold Macmillan to the contrary,
Any bear may shit in any woods
And every pope is Catholic, and wind
Of change will often bring the plague.
And one day we will either be
Hacked to death in our own beds,
Or some similar and nasty thing,
Or Ian Smith, and Enoch Powell,
And even our own Tailgunner Joe,
Will have another life in bronze.
But do you know us? I'm not sure
We have been introduced. We are
The neo-McCarthyists. Our motto:
This time, we'll finish the job.
We have no chance of winning, but
We're not at least afraid to try.
Our saint is Julian the Apostate,
Our modal prince is Castlereagh,
Our favorite statesman died today.

29 Comments:

Anonymous tggp said...

A better tribute, though possibly from before his death, comes from Mukui Waruiru in The Failure of Democracy in Africa.

November 20, 2007 at 11:21 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Next door to Rhodesia I know, but here's a glimpse of America's future, from today's South Africa.

Then again, LA is already experiencing that future.

November 21, 2007 at 12:09 AM  
Blogger Black Sea said...

Ian Smith asked Henry
About the fate of Honour.
Henry smiled discreetly . . .
A sword soon fell upon her.

The White Man's Burden
On that day
Collapsed in bloody farce,
As Ian Smith told Henry
"You kiss my bloody arse."

November 21, 2007 at 4:26 AM  
Anonymous grumpy said...

The world is a poorer place since there are - as of today - no longer any politicians, of any stamp, with the courage and integrity of Smith or Powell.

As a certain self-serving, self-aggrandising political excresence called Blair should have said, just before he assumed power, "Things can only get worse."

November 21, 2007 at 8:32 AM  
Anonymous Quercus said...

Now that Smith is dead, I wonder when Mugabe and ZANU will chop down the pale trees? I'm not talking the murder of a few whites during land appropriation, but 200-proof genocide.

November 21, 2007 at 9:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Possibly pointless trivia: the plot of Jack Vance's science fiction novel "The Gray Prince" was heavily influenced by what happened in Rhodesia during the seventies.

November 21, 2007 at 1:04 PM  
Blogger chairmanK said...

tanstaafl: When you link to a blog like

http://lasucksbigtime.blogspot.com/

you cause me to worry that you sympathize with the blogger. This blogger is my ideological enemy. Are you his fellow-traveler?

November 21, 2007 at 2:19 PM  
Anonymous tggp said...

chairmank, are you seriously telling me you didn't notice tanstaafl's red flags until just now?

November 21, 2007 at 3:55 PM  
Blogger Studd Beefpile said...

Alright, I can understand the Smith adoration, but Enoch Powell? The anti-institutional movement was needed, but it produced almost as much ill as good given how far it was taken. Most of the people wandering the streets of our fair city are people who probably ought to be institutionalized somewhere.

November 21, 2007 at 5:51 PM  
Blogger mtraven said...

I'm curious as to what makes Ian Smith a hero and Mugabe a villain. I'm not fond of either. They are/were both undemocratic, incompetent leaders who fucked up their country in different ways, they both promulgated the interests of a special favored group over the general welfare, they both will end up on the ash heap of history, leaving nothing of any value in their wake. Smith left Mugabe -- without Smith's spectacularly incompetent management of his country's affairs, Rhodesia might have found a peaceful and successful transition to majority rule. We'll never know.

Granted it would surely have been more pleasant to live under Smihs' rule than Mugabe's, but I still can't quite see any principled way to choose between them (as opposed to the unprincipled way of choosing based on which racial group you happen to belng to).

November 21, 2007 at 6:21 PM  
Anonymous tggp said...

I still can't quite see any principled way to choose between them (as opposed to the unprincipled way of choosing based on which racial group you happen to belng to).
Hmm, under Smith Rhodesia was the breadbasket of Africa, under Mugabe it has the fastest shrinking economy in the world. Seems like a significant difference to me. If the worst Smith can be blamed for is leaving his country with Mugabe, it definitely seems like he has less to answer for.

November 21, 2007 at 9:28 PM  
Blogger Mencius Moldbug said...

mtraven,

Why do you assume that, if Mugabe had assumed power in 1965 rather than 1980, the results would have been any different? Are you looking at the experiences of other African countries? If so, which ones?

The transition to majority rule in Zimbabwe was in fact entirely peaceful. If you could be sent back in time to advise Smith, would you advise him to cancel Operation Quartz, as he did? If so, how would you phrase your advice?

Aren't you slightly awed by the level of casuistry it takes to blame the crimes of the Zimbabwean state on the Rhodesian state? Do you also attribute the crimes of the Third Reich to the Weimar Republic? Doesn't this strike you as a rather elastic system of morality?

I have noted this trope in some of the Smith obituaries - Rhodesia caused all Zimbabwe's problems, by not surrendering promptly and obediently. As they say in Texas, "don't piss on my boots and tell me it's raining."

November 21, 2007 at 10:32 PM  
Blogger Mencius Moldbug said...

studd,

Reagan made the same mistake. Something was in the air, that's for sure.

November 21, 2007 at 10:33 PM  
Blogger mtraven said...

mm asked me: Aren't you slightly awed by the level of casuistry it takes to blame the crimes of the Zimbabwean state on the Rhodesian state? Do you also attribute the crimes of the Third Reich to the Weimar Republic?
I did not blame the crimes of the Zimbabwean state on Smith or Rhodesia. I said the latter paved the way for the former, which is not the same thing. The failures of Weimar Germany similarly paved the way for the Third Reich. The difference is that Rhodesia could easily have gone down a different path than the one Smith chose for it. There's no reason to suppose that path would involve Mugabe, who came to prominence in the period between 1965 and 1980.

What I don't get is this attachment to failed strongmen. If I strain against my own biases, I can maybe see a case for successful authoritarian regimes, like that of Singapore, which at least have their act together and can keep their citizenry happy enough that their rule is stable. But why should I, or you, have some sort of fondness for strongmen who are not strong enough to maintain their rule? What's the point? A failed idealist at least can tell themselves they fought the good fight for a principle, a failed strongman is just a failure.

tggp: God knows material prosperity is important. But it does not strike me as what most people would consider a principle. Or maybe it is. Is that what political philosophy boils down to around here, that we are to prefer whoever keeps us well-fed? Perhaps that is not so bad as philosophies go; it can't do as much damage as some of the more idealistic variants can. But it is not very interesting or inspiring.

November 21, 2007 at 11:36 PM  
Blogger Mencius Moldbug said...

mtraven,

Life in Rhodesia was far more than just well-fed. It was also peaceful and orderly.

If you don't agree that peace, prosperity, order and liberty are the ends of government, and that any procedure by which the state is managed can only be judged by how it succeeds on these metrics, I'm afraid we'll have to disagree.

I am really not sure what you mean by this word "strongman." Do you mean that Smith held Rhodesia together with his own biceps? Every government is strong, or it is not a government.

And are you at all familiar with the history of modern Africa? What exactly makes you think that Mugabe, as an individual, is special? Do you think the results would have been particularly different with Nkomo, or Sithole, or even Muzorewa?

Or, for that matter, with the great freedom fighters who run the ANC? See the Spectator article from which I mined the Malan quote. If you don't know who Malan is, I really really recommend his My Traitor's Heart.

November 22, 2007 at 1:13 AM  
Anonymous grumpy said...

Studd Beefpile said: "Alright, I can understand the Smith adoration, but Enoch Powell?"
May I suggest that, unlike virtually every critic of Powell and his 'racism', Studd should actually read what Powell said in his infamous 'Rivers of Blood' speech?
Unfortunately, as is so often the case, Powell's critics respond to what they have been told Powell said rather than concerning themselves with the actuality; God forbid that they should overcome their own prejudice long enough to examine facts.
Powell was concerned with the potential effects of unrestrained immigration on the internal security of Great Britain; that he chose to make a reference to the Classics was enough to guarantee that his observations would be misconstrued (Powell's fault was that he failed to anticipate this). Indeed, had Powell been less concerned with revealing truths he might have realised the power of the weapon he was placing in the hands of those illiberal 'liberals' who set about their work of deliberate misconstruction of Powell's prescience.
Ian Smith articulated his fears for a Rhodesia under black rule and was - unfortunately - proved right. Powell articulated his fears for a Britain swamped by immigrants. Although Powell's 'worst case scenario' has not yet come to pass, Britain - unfortunately - is well along the path to the sort of racial and ethnic conflicts that he foresaw.
If Powell is guilty of anything, it is not racism, but foresight.

November 22, 2007 at 2:01 AM  
Blogger mtraven said...

Let's agree that Smith ran the country much, much better than Mugabe. But he didn't run it well enough to avoid getting the boot. It's probably wrong to call him a "strongman", I think that was an echo of the last time we had this exact same conversation, over Batista/Castro. Smith was not a dictator, he was spokesman for a ruling caste that was on the way out.

Here's a quote from the Judith Todd article you pointed to, which sums up my attitude pretty well:
"Smith and Mugabe are symbiotic, though. The fear of something like Mugabe created Smith and Smith’s ruthlessness called forth a Mugabe, who has in turn now validated Smith. It goes round and round. But Smith did love the country which was why he gave way rather than see it destroyed. Mugabe is destroying it rather than give way.”

I guess I share her Brahmin attitude that it would be nice if we could all just get along. But, let's say we can't, and humanity is doomed to perpetual factional conflict. In that case, how do you choose your factions, assuming you have a choice and are not assigned to one by birth and circumstances? And, more importantly in this case, what happens when the caste you prefer is too weak to hold power against the other castes? In that case, you lose, and cry in your beer, but why do you expect anybody else who doesn't idenitfy with your caste to feel sorry for you?

you said "If you don't agree that peace, prosperity, order and liberty are the ends of government..." Which one of these four doesn't belong? I find it odd to hear you advocating liberty, which seems radically out of step with your past pronouncements, such as taking the side of the Chinese government over the Tianenman Square demonstrators. And it's the one thing Smith could not deliver along with the peace and prosperity, which is why his government ultimately failed.

And no, I don't believe those are the ends of government, although I might agree that they should be, if we lived in some better world. The ends of government are the ends of any other institution -- power and self-perpetuation. If they produce peace, prosperity, etc along the way that is great, but that is not the business they are in.

November 22, 2007 at 9:19 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

chairmank, the Big Effer could be me if I lived a bit farther north, grew up there, and was braver than I actually am.

Your ideology, if you find him so repugnant, is I'm sure not very firmly secured in reality and/or you still live on Neil Young's Sugar Mountain. Just like tggp.

November 22, 2007 at 12:45 PM  
Anonymous tggp said...

grumpy, Studd was not complaining about the "rivers of blood" speech but the decline in institutionalization, which tracked the increase in incarceration. My thoughts on the subject are much like those of Thomas Szasz.

God knows material prosperity is important. But it does not strike me as what most people would consider a principle. Or maybe it is. Is that what political philosophy boils down to around here, that we are to prefer whoever keeps us well-fed? Perhaps that is not so bad as philosophies go; it can't do as much damage as some of the more idealistic variants can. But it is not very interesting or inspiring.
Interesting and inspiring philosophies frequently bring disaster. I would encourage people to not be so inspired by them.

Let's agree that Smith ran the country much, much better than Mugabe.
Seems the only relevant thing to me.

But he didn't run it well enough to avoid getting the boot.
Could anyone in his position have done so?

The difference is that Rhodesia could easily have gone down a different path than the one Smith chose for it.
Like what? Botswana? Most of sub-Saharan Africa turned out terrible and I suspect South Africa is on its way down the tubes as well. Perhaps if he had acted differently it simply would have become a disaster much earlier.

In that case, how do you choose your factions, assuming you have a choice and are not assigned to one by birth and circumstances?
By which one leads to better results, which I would define as a more livable country which is usually evidenced by net migration patterns.

And, more importantly in this case, what happens when the caste you prefer is too weak to hold power against the other castes? In that case, you lose, and cry in your beer, but why do you expect anybody else who doesn't idenitfy with your caste to feel sorry for you?
Then the previous question is moot and we can all shut up if our goal is to accomplish anything as opposed to having interesting conversations. I express my disagreement with Lawrence Auster on that subject here.

I find it odd to hear you advocating liberty, which seems radically out of step with your past pronouncements, such as taking the side of the Chinese government over the Tianenman Square demonstrators.
I think MM's point is that the imposition of order, harsh as it may be at times, can preserve more liberty on net for the people than they would otherwise have. I think the Chinese have more liberty now than they did under Mao and it would seem to me that the inhabitants of Zimbabwe were more free under Smith (who did allow elections in which other parties took power) than under Mugabe. I don't care much for political freedoms either (I will take a liberal non-democracy over an illiberal democracy) so Smith could get points for that throughout his term rather than just at the end.

And it's the one thing Smith could not deliver along with the peace and prosperity, which is why his government ultimately failed.

As long as we define "liberty" as something other than "not being ruled by whites" I think it would be likely that there would still be people working to violently overthrow him who would have succeeded eventually. I would suspect that allowing less liberty would be more likely to keep him in power, as North Korea shows.

Just like tggp.
I suspect chairmank isn't well-rooted in reality given his fondness for mind-altering substances, but the only relevant statement I made here turned out to be accurate so you've got a ways to go in establishing that I am likewise deluded.

November 22, 2007 at 2:48 PM  
Blogger Mencius Moldbug said...

mtraven,

I don't think we disagree that much, but yes, actually, I do believe in liberty.

The problem is this persistent democratic conflation of personal independence and political power. If by "liberty" we mean only the former, I am all for it.

But when "liberty" is confused with power - whether the tiny fraction of formal power democracy assigns to each voter, or the larger fraction of informal power it effectively grants to eloquent intellectuals - I draw the line.

The Tiananmen students were not demonstrating for the freedom to study what they wanted, work in the profession of their choice, marry as they pleased, read the books and listen to the music they liked, or any of that. They were the young elite of China, and their goal was
power. They smelled it and they wanted it now. I have no sympathy at all - I actually think the PLA was quite restrained.

As for Smith, I don't think I answered your point earlier about his regime being doomed to failure. If this had been predictable, it would have been a good point, but the fatal blow for Rhodesia was when the South Africans under Vorster delivered a stab in the back, hoping to trade Rhodesia for international sympathy. (Bear in mind that Rhodesia never had anything like apartheid.) If the assassination of Verwoerd had never happened, the Rhodesian Front might be in power to this day.

And as for power, it is not a person and it is a mistake to personify it. It does not have goals. What interests me, as it has interested many intellectuals in the past, is the design of power structures that are stable and exclude any incentive for war or tyranny.

Your extremely cynical view of power is an excellent engineering assumption for this design process. However, we should not overlook the existence of the occasional basically decent person in power - such as (so far as I can tell) Ian Smith.

November 22, 2007 at 5:55 PM  
Blogger Studd Beefpile said...

>>Grumpy

While I have problems with the River of Blood speach, that wasn't why I was criticizing Powell. Powell seems to me to have made 2 primary points, that immigrants would bring with them the bad habits they learned in other countries, and that anti-discrimination laws would be used to protect and justify this bad behavior. He was, more or less, exactly right on these points.

Where I criticized him was on his position on de-institutionalization. I admit not being terribly familiar with the British case, but in America at least that particular cure (and there is no doubt the mental hospitals were sick places) has been much worse than the disease.

In order to qualify for sainthood, you need 3 miracles. Smith was right when he said that if Mugabe took over, they would end democracy, opress the whites worse than the whites ever oppressed the blacks, and destroy the country, making him 3 for 3. Powell was wrong on the biggest issue he ever had power over, which means no canonization for him.

November 22, 2007 at 9:35 PM  
Blogger mtraven said...

mm said:

But when "liberty" is confused with power - whether the tiny fraction of formal power democracy assigns to each voter, or the larger fraction of informal power it effectively grants to eloquent intellectuals - I draw the line.

If you don't have power you don't have liberty. You have, at best, a temporary license from the powerful to go about your life, which could be revoked at any time.

The Tiananmen students were not demonstrating for the freedom to study what they wanted, work in the profession of their choice, marry as they pleased, read the books and listen to the music they liked, or any of that. They were the young elite of China, and their goal was power. They smelled it and they wanted it now. I have no sympathy at all - I actually think the PLA was quite restrained.

This is (to be charitable) a highly divergent, and rather offensive, interpretation of the Tiananmen square events. Did you come up with this yourself? Can you point to anyone else outside of the Chinese Communist Party who agrees with you (not that that would prove anything, I'm just curious. The internet can turn up all kinds of weird beliefs, from Time Cube to the Stalin Society).

As for Smith, I don't think I answered your point earlier about his regime being doomed to failure. If this had been predictable, it would have been a good point, but the fatal blow for Rhodesia was when the South Africans under Vorster delivered a stab in the back, hoping to trade Rhodesia for international sympathy. (Bear in mind that Rhodesia never had anything like apartheid.) If the assassination of Verwoerd had never happened, the Rhodesian Front might be in power to this day.

I'm out of my depth arguing the finer points of African history, let alone counterfactual African history, so all I can do is quote the Telegraph:

Nothing can convey UDI’s monumental folly. Even in 1965, the reasoning behind Smith’s decision was obviously absurd. First, Smith assumed that white Rhodesians – a dwindling minority of four per cent in 1965 – could monopolise political and economic power into the indefinite future...If UDI was to survive, Rhodesia needed allies, notably Portugal...So Smith gambled that Portugal’s African empire would last for another thousand years or so....South Africa provided Rhodesia with oil and electricity. Smith assumed that Pretoria’s apartheid regime, dominated by Afrikaners with a deep suspicion of British settlers, would support Rhodesia forever...Lastly, Smith presumed that Rhodesia’s black majority – 96 per cent of the population – would accept their status as second class citizens. These assumptions were so wildly unrealistic that only a fantasist could have believed them.

Is this authoritative? Hardly, but given my relative ignorance I need to decide whether to believe the author or you...which brings back JA's interesting epistemolgical question, back a few posts, about how it is that you are convinced you are right and the experts wrong (in economics, in the case of the earlier post), and how we observers are supposed to decide to believe you rather than everybody else. I'd love to hear your answer on that question, which is obviously applicable to many issues and to anyone trying to figure out a worldview different from the official consensus.

And as for power, it is not a person and it is a mistake to personify it. It does not have goals.
Did I personify power? I don't think so, although you can, with some caveats, claim that institutions have goals and act somewhat like persons. Aren't you constantly citing Jouvenal, who personifies power (or is it the state) as the Minotaur?

What interests me, as it has interested many intellectuals in the past, is the design of power structures that are stable and exclude any incentive for war or tyranny.

An admirable goal, but if your design is the Chinese Communist Party or Dubai you won't get many takers. Your approach seems to be to concentrate power in as small a group as possible, which is an odd way to combat tyranny. Contrast that with, say, the US founders, who had similar goals but took the approach of trying to diffuse power.

Your extremely cynical view of power is an excellent engineering assumption for this design process. However, we should not overlook the existence of the occasional basically decent person in power - such as (so far as I can tell) Ian Smith.
It really doesn't matter if he was personally decent or not, if he exercised his power in indecent ways. Attempting to exclude 96% of the populace from political power was indecent, and foolhardy in the long run. A decent leader might have figured out some way for blacks and whites to realize their shared interest in a well-run yet inclusive state. Who knows if that woudl have been possible, but a leader who tried that would earn my admiration. While I am cynical about power, and tempermentally dislike leaders and authority figures, I have some respect for those leaders who can actually defuse war, transcend factionalism, and build stable alliances. If "leadership" means anything good, it means that.

November 23, 2007 at 2:15 PM  
Anonymous tggp said...

I have some respect for those leaders who can actually defuse war, transcend factionalism, and build stable alliances.
I doubt anyone could have done that in Smith's position. They could have surrendered early and hastened the violent, unstable factionalism of decolonialism, which doesn't seem much preferable to the violent, unstable factionalism of colonialism.

Speaking of Tianamen Square, it reminds me of the different views of the Hungarian Uprising. According to the Soviet Union, it was a fascist uprising, to Trotskyists and social-democrats it was an attempt at a more humane socialism, to westerners it was for market democracy. The only people whose view of it I don't know is that of the Hungarian dissidents themselves.

November 23, 2007 at 11:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"... I need to decide whether to believe the author or you...which brings back JA's interesting epistemolgical question, back a few posts, about how it is that you are convinced you are right and the experts wrong (in economics, in the case of the earlier post), and how we observers are supposed to decide to believe you rather than everybody else."

Is this because moldbug hasn't cited enough books to support his worldview? That would be an odd perspective. moldbug just has different experts ... non-teleological pictures of the French Revolution, etc. I think he cites them mainly so people won't ask the above question, not because he believes the leftists are going to read them. Just my opinion.

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